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The quoting is just getting silly...

Post by Zdecent on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:41 am

aggh wrote:
Andy Frogman wrote: [ a load of stuff .... ]
and then
Zdecent wrote: [ another load of stuff ... ]


Right, this is me trying to do an impression of TheMike flower

There's no need for squabbling. You're both partly right and partly wrong (as is usually the case with spats like this)

Andy, you're right. YouTube shouldn't be over-used, and we should be wary of resorting to it as a first recourse in any plot device. There are other methods of communication after all.

Zac, you're right. YouTube was always going to be used as a broadcast medium by characters who habitually used it anyway, and it would be the glue and the theme that bound the broader plot together.

Zac, you're wrong. The plan was not all along for it to start as a prank that people didn't initially believe. The plan all along was no more than "Let's do this thing"

Andy, you're wrong. Attacking zombies with fire is *never* a good idea.

Right, now kiss and make up. Kiss damn you! I want to see kissing!!!

flower


Though partially right in taking the morale high ground and sorting out our little squable, you are ALSO partially wrong, in paperlillies video she said that the storyline would be that the media no beleiving people about the zombies and thinking it ws just some youtube craze, se then went on to say that this part of the storyline, may make more sense if it starts off as pranks, and then real zombies emerge...

Though i agree YouTube should not be over-used, this has been pointed out many times in both this and oter threads within this forum, which is why i find it comical that Andy criticizes my lack of reading...

No while Andy's reply did make me laugh, as did yours "Aghh" the thing i was pointing out is that those
but it made me smile when i saw Andy had wrote: "I've already spoken to B personally..." as i got an image of a five year old in my head boasting about his celebrity friends (In the: "My daddy is way cooler than your daddy" kind of way...)

The thing i about all this, i highly doubt the end writer is gonna read all this stuff and take it into account, what we realy need now is a proffesional writer to stepforth now and announce he will be writing the film we can start giving him suggestions and ideas to work from.

That way there is an hour of sheer panic and mass hysteria. At which point we could drag together all the zombie scenes as events that are occuring around the world. Think like Independence Day, where it wen from city to city, showing the events before the big explsions. It would cut to news roms around the world showing these events, untill finally the Zombie Holocaust begins and the main cities are completly over run with zombies, who are now changing to become the Super versions.
this part here, where you suggest the structure of the film is the bit i was refering to when i told you not to pretend this idea was your own... because you make a suggestion that has been regarded as the basic structure seven times over in neary every thread onthis forum i've seen!

Anyway, that concludes my reply

"Aghh" - i would like to say thank you for sorting us out, i apreciate hat you had to say...
Andy - I do agree with what you said, i just didn't like the way you did it... though my response may have been a bit harsh, i appologise, and i also don't want youtube to be overly featured in the plot. The reason for my snappy response is due to the amount of people on this and other posts who just repeat previou suggestions and make them out to be their own

Sorry, and thanks again
Zac

p.s. Setting a zombie on fire does look cool though... but doesn't really make sense, because it wouldn't really effect their brain...

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For some reason, this part of the messag was accidentally deleted...

Post by Zdecent on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:45 am

No while Andy's reply did make me laugh, as did yours "Aghh" the thing i was pointing out is that those... (Coninued) who repeat ideas aleady put forward should not be posting unless they've read the rest of the thread

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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by aggh on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:09 am

OK, I think we're all more or less back on the same page here. It's just the small matter of when and if it's a good idea to set fire to zombies (I honestly don't know what temperature fire you'd need to destroy a brain. Interesting...)

Oh, one tiny point Zac. Yes, you're right, PaperLillies' latest video says that, but that was not the original video. I have a full almost-three-weeks' seniority on you here (bow down before my mighty almost-three-weeks seniority) so I have a better perspective on how the plan has developed.
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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by Stevesk0011 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:45 am

Another few ideas which I think could be fleshed out more are:
the idea of a movie told from the POV of a zombie. Perhaps they don't realise they're a zombie, and they just want to live a normal life, but everyone hates them and is scared of them but in their zombie-mind they don't realise that. Or maybe we could make it into a kind of allegory of the mindless zombieness of many jobs/modern life, where we have offices full of zombies who just go about their day despite being zombies.


come on paperlillies......not that realistic

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Double reply baby....

Post by Zdecent on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:02 pm

Stevesk0011 wrote:Another few ideas which I think could be fleshed out more are:
the idea of a movie told from the POV of a zombie. Perhaps they don't realise they're a zombie, and they just want to live a normal life, but everyone hates them and is scared of them but in their zombie-mind they don't realise that. Or maybe we could make it into a kind of allegory of the mindless zombieness of many jobs/modern life, where we have offices full of zombies who just go about their day despite being zombies.


come on paperlillies......not that realistic


I also donk tink that is very realistic, i think its just silly, especially if we are trying to make this movie a serious one... sounds like a gay disney comedy to me...

Aggh wrote:OK, I think we're all more or less back on the same page here. It's just the small matter of when and if it's a good idea to set fire to zombies (I honestly don't know what temperature fire you'd need to destroy a brain. Interesting...)

Oh, one tiny point Zac. Yes, you're right, PaperLillies' latest video says that, but that was not the original video. I have a full almost-three-weeks' seniority on you here (bow down before my mighty almost-three-weeks seniority) so I have a better perspective on how the plan has developed.


I watched that video too dude, btw, what do you think of that BBC webisode thing??? looks like it good be done well, or be disastirously bad...anyway, this thread is a reply to the written version of her LATEST video, so when i say this was the original plan, i mean, from the ORIGIN of the post, not from when the first video started. Either way, the idea is now that the zombie craze will begin as a prank until rea zombies emerge... Unless somone comes up with a better idea, though i like this one because it allows the movie to relate to modern day, with the happy slapping craze, and youtube being used to show them...

As to fire tempretures needed to melt a zombie brain... god knows... maybe we should ask him... Very Happy
I just don't think its clever to light something on fire if they have barely any feeling and are moving towards you quickly... no, scrap that, its just a bad idea to set anything on fir travelling in your general direction, remember your clothes are flammable too, and fire usually causes burns... often with a nasty side-effect... death... Its just not big, and it's not clever...

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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by TheBadcrab on Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:22 pm

What I'm seeing a lot of here is that the media/government don't find out/realise that the zombies are not just teenage hoodlums until it's too late. But come on now, think about this seriously. Tabloids like The Sun would instantaneously latch onto the fact someone had their arm ripped off by a bunch of 'yobs', and then got turned into a shuffling, groaning heap of undeath, who then in turn ripped off the nose and kneecaps of an old granny.

As that guy said: "You can fool some people for some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." In this case, the word 'fool' should be replaced with 'misinform'.

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Well...

Post by Zdecent on Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:53 pm

TheBadcrab wrote:What I'm seeing a lot of here is that the media/government don't find out/realise that the zombies are not just teenage hoodlums until it's too late. But come on now, think about this seriously. Tabloids like The Sun would instantaneously latch onto the fact someone had their arm ripped off by a bunch of 'yobs', and then got turned into a shuffling, groaning heap of undeath, who then in turn ripped off the nose and kneecaps of an old granny.

As that guy said: "You can fool some people for some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." In this case, the word 'fool' should be replaced with 'misinform'.

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Thats the point being discussed, the zombie biting thing happens to start off as a teenage craze at first, maybe some guy saw a woman getting bitten by the first REAL zombie and thought it was like a hapy slapping kinda thing you do on camera, and so decided to do it with his friend and they did it with other friend, and it becomes this big craze, with the media discussing how all teenagers these days are so violent and stupid (This woud explain how the videos get onto youtube as zombies will hardly record it and upload it to youtube themselves). When vloggers fnally start to realise this is real and post videos, the media thinis k it is still... like an extended version of the biting craze...

When people start seeing others getting their arms ripped off etc, they just think its a fake arm with fake blood for another video and walk away beause they dont want the "Violent kids" they beleive are doing this, to see them...

Perhaps the Zombie transformation is slow, taking maybe 5 hours to transform, but the virus evolves, so the transformation speeds up (A cool scene comes to mind with million of zombies charging at humans and the the humans being bitten and turning into zombies within seconds and joinin the charge, major special effects needed but a great clip for the trailer Very Happy) until suddenly millions are becoming zombies and i happens so fast, "Renegade Media" realise its not a hoax, there are real zombies, but by then its too late...

This is my explination, im sure the fina writter will come up with something eqally as explanitory... or... exactlyth same... lol

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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by TheBadcrab on Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:03 pm

Zdecent wrote:
TheBadcrab wrote:What I'm seeing a lot of here is that the media/government don't find out/realise that the zombies are not just teenage hoodlums until it's too late. But come on now, think about this seriously. Tabloids like The Sun would instantaneously latch onto the fact someone had their arm ripped off by a bunch of 'yobs', and then got turned into a shuffling, groaning heap of undeath, who then in turn ripped off the nose and kneecaps of an old granny.

As that guy said: "You can fool some people for some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." In this case, the word 'fool' should be replaced with 'misinform'.

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Thats the point being discussed, the zombie biting thing happens to start off as a teenage craze at first, maybe some guy saw a woman getting bitten by the first REAL zombie and thought it was like a hapy slapping kinda thing you do on camera, and so decided to do it with his friend and they did it with other friend, and it becomes this big craze, with the media discussing how all teenagers these days are so violent and stupid (This woud explain how the videos get onto youtube as zombies will hardly record it and upload it to youtube themselves). When vloggers fnally start to realise this is real and post videos, the media thinis k it is still... like an extended version of the biting craze...

When people start seeing others getting their arms ripped off etc, they just think its a fake arm with fake blood for another video and walk away beause they dont want the "Violent kids" they beleive are doing this, to see them...

Perhaps the Zombie transformation is slow, taking maybe 5 hours to transform, but the virus evolves, so the transformation speeds up (A cool scene comes to mind with million of zombies charging at humans and the the humans being bitten and turning into zombies within seconds and joinin the charge, major special effects needed but a great clip for the trailer Very Happy) until suddenly millions are becoming zombies and i happens so fast, "Renegade Media" realise its not a hoax, there are real zombies, but by then its too late...

This is my explination, im sure the fina writter will come up with something eqally as explanitory... or... exactlyth same... lol

Zac


I don't know about you, but if I saw someone getting their arm ripped off in public with pretty realistic blood spurting out of it, I'd be worried. So, I presume, would the media, who would then find out that the armless guy 'died' and then miraculously revified hours later, infecting a couple of people with the disease he carries before being neutralised. It may be realistic if the media thinks that it's a teenage craze for a day or even 12 hours, but any more than that and it becomes silliness.
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Post by Zdecent on Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:11 pm

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Why would a zombie rip a guys arm off anyway? A human can't rip another humans arm off, how could a zombie? (Bear in mind zombies can barely walk...) humans have less capibility than humans...

Besides, all the zombie has to do is bite the guy, why rip is fukin arm off?

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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by TheBadcrab on Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:45 pm

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Why would a zombie rip a guys arm off anyway? A human can't rip another humans arm off, how could a zombie? (Bear in mind zombies can barely walk...) humans have less capibility than humans...

Besides, all the zombie has to do is bite the guy, why rip is fukin arm off?


I don't know, but Paperlilies herself said that she's want a bit where someone fights off a load of undead with their own arm. If we're going to have one limb-tearing, we might as well have two. Very Happy

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Post by zombiehunterash on Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:05 pm

I know some people who can help but heres sme ideas for you to ponder
1.you can go two ways the start of the zombie outbreak or half way thought never the end becuse there is no end.
2.maby go for a sad end rather than a happy one like the main charector having to kill self to escape this zombie world.
3.try not to comite the horror film sins example dont have some one say "zombies theres no such thing as zombies" and then they get eaten
4.Try to be different dont folllow do the same thing as every other horror film
5.Try and get a copy of "the zombie survival guide"by Max brooks it explanes what you should do when the zombie apocalips happens it will help with ideas.
I will have more of these but i would like to see youre reactions to this in case my ideas are not welcome.

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Post by zombiehunterash on Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:49 pm

ding! idea from watching More about the zombie walk tomorrow! video and i got an idea news reader in studion that is reporting idea and then they get in to the studio and killed in fround of the cammars we see the camara men die and cut to a no signal image... how about that?

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Post by Zdecent on Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:38 pm

zombiehunterash wrote:ding! idea from watching More about the zombie walk tomorrow! video and i got an idea news reader in studion that is reporting idea and then they get in to the studio and killed in fround of the cammars we see the camara men die and cut to a no signal image... how about that?


Very cliche, an its been done... so many times...

zombiehunterash wrote:I know some people who can help but heres sme ideas for you to ponder
1.you can go two ways the start of the zombie outbreak or half way thought never the end becuse there is no end.
2.maby go for a sad end rather than a happy one like the main charector having to kill self to escape this zombie world.
3.try not to comite the horror film sins example dont have some one say "zombies theres no such thing as zombies" and then they get eaten
4.Try to be different dont folllow do the same thing as every other horror film
5.Try and get a copy of "the zombie survival guide"by Max brooks it explanes what you should do when the zombie apocalips happens it will help with ideas.
I will have more of these but i would like to see youre reactions to this in case my ideas are not welcome.


I like these, though i hate it when people come in and pretend they know it all, unless ur in the film industry and have been for a while, i don't see how you have that right. Though these ideas are pretty good, so i'll let u off...

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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by Andy Frogman on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:17 pm

zombiehunterash wrote:ding! idea from watching More about the zombie walk tomorrow! video and i got an idea news reader in studion that is reporting idea and then they get in to the studio and killed in fround of the cammars we see the camara men die and cut to a no signal image... how about that?


Acctually that works, because they are out in the streets of London when the news reporter gets attacked, when the scene cuts back to the studio it would be pretty grousom to have a load of dead bodies and someone shuffelling off the stage or some thing.

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Re: I've read all of this forum! and here are/is my conclusion(s)

Post by Andy Frogman on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:19 pm

Zdecent wrote:
zombiehunterash wrote:ding! idea from watching More about the zombie walk tomorrow! video and i got an idea news reader in studion that is reporting idea and then they get in to the studio and killed in fround of the cammars we see the camara men die and cut to a no signal image... how about that?


Very cliche, an its been done... so many times...

zombiehunterash wrote:I know some people who can help but heres sme ideas for you to ponder
1.you can go two ways the start of the zombie outbreak or half way thought never the end becuse there is no end.
2.maby go for a sad end rather than a happy one like the main charector having to kill self to escape this zombie world.
3.try not to comite the horror film sins example dont have some one say "zombies theres no such thing as zombies" and then they get eaten
4.Try to be different dont folllow do the same thing as every other horror film
5.Try and get a copy of "the zombie survival guide"by Max brooks it explanes what you should do when the zombie apocalips happens it will help with ideas.
I will have more of these but i would like to see youre reactions to this in case my ideas are not welcome.


I like these, though i hate it when people come in and pretend they know it all, unless ur in the film industry and have been for a while, i don't see how you have that right. Though these ideas are pretty good, so i'll let u off...

Zac


Listen up Zac, who the hell do you think you are? You are not in charge of this project and you have no right to tell people that they don;t ahve the right to make suggestions. This movie is all about everyone getting involved, and if your only contribution is to play the high and might ass hole then kindly take a hike!

You're pissing me off!

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