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[Zdecent]

What's a flash mob???

well, it's where a large group of people gather at a public place, perform a random task without any explaination, and then disappear again. look up the channel ImprovEverywhere on youtube.

Oh right, i knew what they where, jst not what they where called

Thanks Bill

[Bristolstevek]

I have enjoyed reading all the ideas on this forum, there's just one thing I would like to chip in. Most people aren't skilled to deal with losing all their home comforts in one go. One suggesting Bryony mentions at the start was having people trying to save a server. If the world was falling apart cause a zombie outbreak where would the power be coming from? I know that's an incredibly anal point but whenever I hear of another post apocalypic storyline, the first thing I ask is how are these people feeding themselves.

I think it would be good to see the actors having to learn new skills, such as, hunting/fighting, to cope with their new reality.

I like the idea about misinformation being sent out by the mainstream media, whether or not its due to plain ignorance or a sadistic desire to see people suffer is a decision for the whole forum to make.

[Zdecent]

I have enjoyed reading all the ideas on this forum, there's just one thing I would like to chip in. Most people aren't skilled to deal with losing all their home comforts in one go. One suggesting Bryony mentions at the start was having people trying to save a server. If the world was falling apart cause a zombie outbreak where would the power be coming from? I know that's an incredibly anal point but whenever I hear of another post apocalypic storyline, the first thing I ask is how are these people feeding themselves.

I think it would be good to see the actors having to learn new skills, such as, hunting/fighting, to cope with their new reality.

I like the idea about misinformation being sent out by the mainstream media, whether or not its due to plain ignorance or a sadistic desire to see people suffer is a decision for the whole forum to make.

Brilliant point, anopther good idea for youtube video's, people teaching others how to survive, Paperlillies mentioned that. But this is a good point i had forgotten about.

[JNewJ]

Paperlillies wrote:

uh, yeah i know that but the reason for it in this instance is that the film has at the moment a director who happens to live in the UK and a director who happens to live in NYC. The fact that these cities are vastly populated is why the movie would be set there.

I thought the whole idea is that people all over the world can get in on it. If that's the case then there should be a worldwide infection, in the sense that this spreads very very quickly. If it is a virus it could be airborne, or if it's some sort of infection that's contagious, aside from being bitten, then it needs to move very fast, this way people all over the world can get involved and their involvement is easily explained.
I live in Ann Arbor, and I know that I have seen people all over the U.S. and Europe who want to get involved, but can't make it to these larger areas. That is obviously where the YouTube videos come in, and I know not EVERYONE is going to be able to get involved, but the more you can spread it out, I think, the better. The plot itself isn't the only thing that's riding on this. This is a global effort with many people coming together from many different areas to prove that no matter how far away from one another we are, we can unite over a common goal and achieve it. To prove to the world that something like that can be done would be an amazing feat. Let's not forget that aspect of this thing, and let's try to make it as all inclusive and the best we can.

Soapbox!

[Zdecent]

Paperlillies wrote:

uh, yeah i know that but the reason for it in this instance is that the film has at the moment a director who happens to live in the UK and a director who happens to live in NYC. The fact that these cities are vastly populated is why the movie would be set there.

I thought the whole idea is that people all over the world can get in on it. If that's the case then there should be a worldwide infection, in the sense that this spreads very very quickly. If it is a virus it could be airborne, or if it's some sort of infection that's contagious, aside from being bitten, then it needs to move very fast, this way people all over the world can get involved and their involvement is easily explained.
I live in Ann Arbor, and I know that I have seen people all over the U.S. and Europe who want to get involved, but can't make it to these larger areas. That is obviously where the YouTube videos come in, and I know not EVERYONE is going to be able to get involved, but the more you can spread it out, I think, the better. The plot itself isn't the only thing that's riding on this. This is a global effort with many people coming together from many different areas to prove that no matter how far away from one another we are, we can unite over a common goal and achieve it. To prove to the world that something like that can be done would be an amazing feat. Let's not forget that aspect of this thing, and let's try to make it as all inclusive and the best we can.

Soapbox!

It can't be airborn, because then everyone would be infected, and if our characters where imune, it would reduce tension as you know it is impossible for them to become a zombie, i think at some point, someone close to a main character should be zombieficated. When a citizen is bit the will be zombified, this will spread fast enough across the world because people get close to the zombies thinking they are kids in costumes which is why it spreads so quick.

I was thinking, this film should be set on halloween, the obsession with kids and zombie outfits biting people starts and are uploaded to youtube, then the real zombies emerge and the media can't tell the difference.

Just and idea...
Zac

[ClickMeMango]

So.... I'm trying to get straight here how many different "groups" or "types" of characters there will be...


and these are just my ideas... correct, elaborate, or build off any of this...


MAIN: the characters who like in UK, NYC, whatever who are filmed by a proffesional crew...
Sub-MAIN: Those little underlying stories which could be filmed with a hand held cam, by a few characters in smaller areas who still have a fairly large group of people to work with. Perhaps some of these people could be connected in some way to the MAIN characters. (this idea is being discussed in the "Plot Idea Thread" http://zombiemovie.gooboards.com/plots-ideas-f4/the-plot-idea-thread-t441.htm
Vloggers: The youtube (or whatever site we use, copyright and whatnot) that tell us from EVERYWHERE all over the world how the epidemic is eating up their cities and whose died and what's going on. In this category there could be different kinds of vloggers... (1) really main ones who end up dying and their absence causes huge distress throughout the youtube comunity... and then (2) everyone one else who just wants to be a part of the film, vlogging and doing their part.

does that sound about right?

[homer1561]

I can see this as like a cloverfield - cross dawn of the dead film...

I think you've nailed it on the head there! To me that would be a film that i would watch 10000 times.
Cloverfield was pretty much a massive vlog of the characters and events that happened in that film. And too cross that with the zombie idea from dawn of the dead seems to be exactly whats going on here.
To mix those would make an AMAZING movie, i would love to see again and again.

[casee]

Why dont we just simply do a "Night of the living dead" thing for a majority of the story.
Its simple.

We get a house (in the countryside prefferably).
Board it up.
Comes under attack by zombies.
House falls down.
End.

Simple - effective - scary.
^^

xD, wouldn't that cost quite a few dollars? lulz

[Zdecent]

Why dont we just simply do a "Night of the living dead" thing for a majority of the story.
Its simple.

We get a house (in the countryside prefferably).
Board it up.
Comes under attack by zombies.
House falls down.
End.

Simple - effective - scary.
^^

xD, wouldn't that cost quite a few dollars? lulz

Could be the most boring youtube scary movie ever... The whole point is we do something different, this a unique project, done in a unique way, why not have a unique storyline, 40% of the contributors to this thread just say "Use something from this movie!", or "Copy this movie..." Or come up with a storyline that will make them the main character... To those of you who ACTUALLY contribute something helpful, YOU GUYS ROCK!!!

That is all...

[Andy Frogman]

I know I'm a little late coming back to this, but to be honnest I think that keeping it as events logged by Youtubers and ignored by the regular media is a bit of a lame idea. Mainly because at some point someone is going to investigate and find it to be real. Also the thing about people communicating over Youtube doesn't make alot of sense, surly webcams and chat programs would make more sense.

I realize this is an InternetZombie Movie, but does that really mean we have to confine it to purly the internet media. Maybe if they use youtube to find out if anyone else has these videos, thats fine, it would make sense "Oh crap! I saw someone getting their arm ripped off and everyone said it was fake. I'll check youtube see if anyone else as seen stuff like this!" I understand that much.

But I don;t th8ink that should take up the whole movie, that would just be dragging the system along. After about 20 minutes at maximum, it should switch. Go from Youtubers making comments about stuff, to the ACCTUAL media, in a news room talking about the sudden craze, and then discovering it's acctually true by an hour in at max.

That way there is an hour of sheer panic and mass hysteria. At which point we could drag together all the zombie scenes as events that are occuring around the world. Think like Independence Day, where it wen from city to city, showing the events before the big explsions. It would cut to news roms around the world showing these events, untill finally the Zombie Holocaust begins and the main cities are completly over run with zombies, who are now changing to become the Super versions.

Let action commense!

[Zdecent]

I know I'm a little late coming back to this, but to be honnest I think that keeping it as events logged by Youtubers and ignored by the regular media is a bit of a lame idea. Mainly because at some point someone is going to investigate and find it to be real. Also the thing about people communicating over Youtube doesn't make alot of sense, surly webcams and chat programs would make more sense.

I realize this is an InternetZombie Movie, but does that really mean we have to confine it to purly the internet media. Maybe if they use youtube to find out if anyone else has these videos, thats fine, it would make sense "Oh crap! I saw someone getting their arm ripped off and everyone said it was fake. I'll check youtube see if anyone else as seen stuff like this!" I understand that much.

But I don;t th8ink that should take up the whole movie, that would just be dragging the system along. After about 20 minutes at maximum, it should switch. Go from Youtubers making comments about stuff, to the ACCTUAL media, in a news room talking about the sudden craze, and then discovering it's acctually true by an hour in at max.

That way there is an hour of sheer panic and mass hysteria. At which point we could drag together all the zombie scenes as events that are occuring around the world. Think like Independence Day, where it wen from city to city, showing the events before the big explsions. It would cut to news roms around the world showing these events, untill finally the Zombie Holocaust begins and the main cities are completly over run with zombies, who are now changing to become the Super versions.

Let action commense!

Okay, your missing the point a little, the intention was never to keep the movie all about youtube, but youtube is the bond between them all, any author/writer will kno that if your gonna have multiple characters/character groups, they have to be connected, or meet at some point, youtube will act as their conection. The reason they comunicate through youtube is because A- They want to share their discoveries with everyone, so anyone in danger can see them, and defend themselves, B- They do not know each other persoanlly, but meet through youtube and continue that method of communication, C- The COMMUNICATION we refer to isn't necesarily a straight foward conversation, its maybe, one vlogger saying he has found zombies can't endure loud noises, and anoher finding they have no common sense, and then someone who watches both videos puts that together with his discovery to create a weapon that will distract them... i don't know, but YouTube is first used to get the word out to as many as possible...

The point all along was to establish quite early on in the movie A- Zombie biting starts off as a prank B- Real zombies emerge and begin biting and meda beleives it to be the same prank continued and mock youtubers and all that beleive them. C- Media realise the zombie sightings aren't all hoaxs and begin to warn the public.
This was pretty much always the plan, don't try and pretend this is some idea you've had... (also it has always been planned that Youtubers homemade zombie clips will be show at different points in the movie)

Thanks again for your pointless and repeatitive contribution...
Zac

[Andy Frogman]

I know I'm a little late coming back to this, but to be honnest I think that keeping it as events logged by Youtubers and ignored by the regular media is a bit of a lame idea. Mainly because at some point someone is going to investigate and find it to be real. Also the thing about people communicating over Youtube doesn't make alot of sense, surly webcams and chat programs would make more sense.

I realize this is an InternetZombie Movie, but does that really mean we have to confine it to purly the internet media. Maybe if they use youtube to find out if anyone else has these videos, thats fine, it would make sense "Oh crap! I saw someone getting their arm ripped off and everyone said it was fake. I'll check youtube see if anyone else as seen stuff like this!" I understand that much.

But I don;t th8ink that should take up the whole movie, that would just be dragging the system along. After about 20 minutes at maximum, it should switch. Go from Youtubers making comments about stuff, to the ACCTUAL media, in a news room talking about the sudden craze, and then discovering it's acctually true by an hour in at max.

That way there is an hour of sheer panic and mass hysteria. At which point we could drag together all the zombie scenes as events that are occuring around the world. Think like Independence Day, where it wen from city to city, showing the events before the big explsions. It would cut to news roms around the world showing these events, untill finally the Zombie Holocaust begins and the main cities are completly over run with zombies, who are now changing to become the Super versions.

Let action commense!

Okay, your missing the point a little, the intention was never to keep the movie all about youtube, but youtube is the bond between them all, any author/writer will kno that if your gonna have multiple characters/character groups, they have to be connected, or meet at some point, youtube will act as their conection. The reason they comunicate through youtube is because A- They want to share their discoveries with everyone, so anyone in danger can see them, and defend themselves, B- They do not know each other persoanlly, but meet through youtube and continue that method of communication, C- The COMMUNICATION we refer to isn't necesarily a straight foward conversation, its maybe, one vlogger saying he has found zombies can't endure loud noises, and anoher finding they have no common sense, and then someone who watches both videos puts that together with his discovery to create a weapon that will distract them... i don't know, but YouTube is first used to get the word out to as many as possible...

The point all along was to establish quite early on in the movie A- Zombie biting starts off as a prank B- Real zombies emerge and begin biting and meda beleives it to be the same prank continued and mock youtubers and all that beleive them. C- Media realise the zombie sightings aren't all hoaxs and begin to warn the public.
This was pretty much always the plan, don't try and pretend this is some idea you've had... (also it has always been planned that Youtubers homemade zombie clips will be show at different points in the movie)

Thanks again for your pointless and repeatitive contribution...
Zac

Oh sorry, I never would have posted this if I knew that there were members of Jackasses Annonymous here, I should be more sensitive you your feelings. I never once said that the "hoax" idea was my idea, I've seen the video that B posted too you know. It wasn't pretty much always the plan, when this started there was very little of a plan, and due to some of the reactions in this thread it appears that there are people claiming youtube, making it sound more significant than it needs to be.

The very purpos of my post wasn't infact to repeat everything and if you took more than five seconds to read it that would be obvious to you, that I'm talking about time scaling. Yes use youtube, thats how all of us came together int he first place... but it needn't be more than 15 - 20 minutes of scene setting, and then only to show that general public have more idea of the situation than the big wig media people. Then maybe used a little more later when the media finally have a grasp on it and start showing the Youtube vids as evidence.

All I'm saying is it;s going to be really easy for Youtube to be overused. Not Youtuber's videos, thats obviously what this film is about, but Youtube as a media outlet.

Also as for "finding out ways to kill them" this is based in the real world, everyone knows how to kill a zombie. Remove the brain from the body, the messier the beter. Second option is fire, the only reason it;s second option is because they can still attack. If you don't know these things, then you shouldn;t be working on the movie. Take a look at all the modern day horrors athat are based in the real world, people know how to kill them, they always do, except for the retarded blonde cheerleader, who gets eaten first whil having sex with her boyfriend in the back of the car, who just so happened to turn the radio off just as the news reprt comes on. While shes dragged from the car bloody kicking and screaming he jumps in the drivers seat and her body is flung on his windshield. He then goes on with a grudge to kill them all and nobley sacrifices himself at the end.

It's a story as old as stories started being told around camp fires. It went something like this back then tho...

Story teller: "Arr uuug aru!"
Other Cavemen: *Gasp!*

So lets get this obnoxious attitude out the way and carry on with the story. I've already spoken to B personally about this and she didn't get uppety at me, so what right do you?

End of story.

Thinking about independence day tho... why do I suddenly have the urge to splice Zombie Holocaust with Independence Day and make the Alien invasion the ending insted? Thats just weird...

Oh and somehting I ment to say in the previous post...

the idea of a movie told from the POV of a zombie. Perhaps they don't realise they're a zombie, and they just want to live a normal life, but everyone hates them and is scared of them but in their zombie-mind they don't realise that.

That was a heavy theme in Land of the Dead... it might not be the best idea to repeat it. If it can be taken vfrom an oblique angle then maybe. I did post a piece somewhere about a family that had been turned sitting around a table as if waiting for dinner, in their pre decomposed state. Then later on you see thekid from that family completly turned and attacks the main character.

Just an idea.

[aggh]

So.... I'm trying to get straight here how many different "groups" or "types" of characters there will be...

and these are just my ideas... correct, elaborate, or build off any of this...

That's a pretty bang-on accurate summary IMO.

Although it may be that you're echoing something I said, in which case I'm bound to think that.

Or it could be I was copying someone else, who in turn copied you.

I dunno. I lose track of who said what in what order. These forums get kinda chaotic at times.

But anyway, good summary, yes.

[aggh]

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and then

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Right, this is me trying to do an impression of TheMike

There's no need for squabbling. You're both partly right and partly wrong (as is usually the case with spats like this)

Andy, you're right. YouTube shouldn't be over-used, and we should be wary of resorting to it as a first recourse in any plot device. There are other methods of communication after all.

Zac, you're right. YouTube was always going to be used as a broadcast medium by characters who habitually used it anyway, and it would be the glue and the theme that bound the broader plot together.

Zac, you're wrong. The plan was not all along for it to start as a prank that people didn't initially believe. The plan all along was no more than "Let's do this thing"

Andy, you're wrong. Attacking zombies with fire is *never* a good idea.

Right, now kiss and make up. Kiss damn you! I want to see kissing!!!

[Andy Frogman]

acctually, attacking zombies wih fire is a good method... saves you having to burn the bodies later