How this is going to work

Rob Lara wrote:i agree all the way

I don't think the question about money has been fully answered yet. Although, Paperlilies did say that she likes the idea of the film getting made with no budget whatsoever.

As for making money, I personally have no hopes that the film will make any money at all. I sort of assumed that it would just be distributed for free over the internet.

I guess someone could sell DVDs or t-shirts or something, but I see any kind of money-making from this project as just something that will cause problems. It could possibly even cause legal problems, as Incarnate pointed out.

Paperlilies will get more notoriety out of this, (Maybe she'll even get invited to Cannes or something!) but I don't think the rest of us will have much to gain other than knowing that we contributed and maybe something to put on a resume... Although, a free t-shirt with the sweet art from the website would be cool. (hint, hint)

As far as money goes I think the best model to compare this thing to is open-source software (such as Linux, and phpBB - the software that powers these forums).

Open Source software starts out as someone's pet project. They then open it up to the world at large, saying "Who wants to help me out with this". Anyone who wants to help, contributes. They contribute because they are interested, or because they are bored, or because they think the project is a thing that deserves helping, or whatever, but they do not contribute because they dream of riches.

There are hundreds of thousands of open-source projects out there (if in doubt, go to sourceforge.net), of which maybe a couple of dozen have earned their creators any kind of money whatsoever. That's (very roughly) a quarter of a tenth of one percent. Crucially, the successful ones were not the first ones.

This project is similar (and if not, it damn well should be, or we are all being ripped off). We all contribute for our various reasons. When it gets finished, it should be freely distributable by anyone who can be arsed to rip it to DVD. There may be people who sell enough DVD's to pay for a night out, and Bryony herself may gain 15-minutes of D-list celebrity fame, but *nobody* - even in the best of all plausible scenarios - is going to be able to quit their day job.

Seriously folks: the second money becomes an issue this whole thing will end up in court, and any money you thought you deserved will go to the lawyers you had to hire.

Seriously folks: the second money becomes an issue this whole thing will end up in court, and any money you thought you deserved will go to the lawyers you had to hire.

That is exactly why these kinds of legal documents have to be made. Its in the interest of all participants of this project, and also for
the founder and co-founders. And even if this is to be compared to an opensource project, then this has to be in a legal document as well
on this site and everyplace this project gets affiliated. So yes, it is VERY important.

Incarnate wrote:That is exactly why these kinds of legal documents have to be made. Its in the interest of all participants of this project, and also for the founder and co-founders. And even if this is to be compared to an opensource project, then this has to be in a legal document as well on this site and everyplace this project gets affiliated. So yes, it is VERY important.

Fine. Let's use this one
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/uk/

It's the same one Wikipedia uses (more or less). It says anyone can do anything to anything.

aggh wrote:Fine. Let's use this one
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/uk/

It's the same one Wikipedia uses (more or less). It says anyone can do anything to anything.

That sounds perfect to me I think. Let's use this one.